Tauck reflects on 90 years in business

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"I think that the competition that the entire travel industry — the tour operators, the cruise lines — face is crowds." — Arthur Tauck Jr.
"I think that the competition that the entire travel industry — the tour operators, the cruise lines — face is crowds." — Arthur Tauck Jr.

On July 12, Tauck will celebrate 90 years since Arthur Tauck Sr., father of the company’s current chairman, set out from Newark with a group of six passengers to lead his first motor tour. The decades since then have been a fascinating journey, from bus and rail travel to jet planes, through depressions and recessions, and into the digital age.

Arthur Tauck Jr., himself a living piece of travel history after 57 years at the company’s helm, recently spoke with tour operators editor Michelle Baran about how it all started.

Travel Weekly: When you got into the touring business, did you ever think that the company would grow into what it is today?

Tauck: I was born seven years after the company started. But I can surely tell you that my father, who operated the company until 1958, had absolutely no vision of where it was going. I think he did it kind of as a lark. He started before the Depression, so things were looking good. And then three or four years after he went into business, the Depression hit. He was just about put into bankruptcy in 1932.

And then along came World War II, and we were licensed by the Interstate Commerce Commission; all tour operators who ran motorcoaches interstate had broker licenses from the Interstate Commerce Commission. So we were regulated by the government then. That doesn’t exist anymore. But because it existed at the time, they had the authority to put him out of business. So he got an order to cease and desist right after Pearl Harbor. And he did not reopen until 1947.

But then the biggest change of all that hit this entire industry [was] in 1960. Unfortunately, [my father] never saw it because he died in 1960. But in 1960, Pan American World Airways bought the very first Boeing 707 jet, and jet aviation came into commercial travel. And that just shrunk the world overnight. In other words, you could fly to the West Coast without stopping. You could fly to Europe without stopping. The world changed. That was absolutely the biggest change that happened, and the travel industry was really born, I feel, in 1960.

"You get in these motorcoaches today, there’s no better way to go. You’re up high, you’re over the traffic, you see more, the air conditioning works, the music works, the TVs work. You can sit back and relax."

TW: So is that when you decided to do international tours?

Tauck: Oh no, that didn’t happen until 1991. We had growth all across North America. Up until the coming of the jet aircraft, if anybody traveled west on tours to see the national parks, like Grand Canyon or Bryce or Zion or Yosemite, they went by rail. I was the first to start linking the national parks of the West by air. That was probably one of the biggest things we ever did. We were a forerunner in that.

Our competition was basically all U.S.-domiciled tour operators who operated only in the United States. Then, all of a sudden, some of the European tour operators who were also growing: Maupintour, Globus, all those guys were just operating overseas, but when the dollar weakened, they were losing money. So they came and started to be our competitors over here. So we said, “We’ve got to compete with this because when the dollar strengthens, our following is going to choose our competitors to go overseas, because we’re not there.”

It was really the flipping of the exchange rate that caused us to go overseas so that we could have a product and keep our same customers anywhere in the world, and that occurred in 1991.

And so we started expanding throughout the world. We started in Europe, and then Asia, Africa. We’re on all seven continents today. And then we got into riverboating, and riverboating is a good piece of our business today.

TW: What has changed about tour operating?

Tauck: The changes came largely in technology and equipment — the airplane. The bus used to be a horrible stigma. People never wanted to travel by bus because it wasn’t very comfortable. You get in these motorcoaches today, there’s no better way to go. You’re up high, you’re over the traffic, you see more, the air conditioning works, the music works, the TVs work. You can sit back and relax. It’s a delightful way to travel. It wasn’t that way in the beginning.

The other thing that’s changing, and I think the tour operators changed it, is we really upgraded the experiences that take place on our tours. Before, it used to be sit on a motorcoach, look out the window and let the outside world entertain you. And today, it’s get out of the motorcoach, get outside and do the things out there that you’ve been watching people do.

TW: Was there ever a time you thought that the challenges might not be surmountable?

Tauck: The most difficult was World War II, 9/11 and 2008. Dan Mahar, our CEO, was talking to [some of the fourth-generation family members], explaining everything that had happened and explaining the growth years and explaining the tough years and explaining 2008. And one 14-year-old said, “What would have happened if it lasted four more years?” It was the most astute comment anybody could have ever made.

[The 2008 economic crisis] turned around, and the industry came back almost overnight in a couple of years. But if that situation had lasted four more years, there wouldn’t be very many tour operators out there. I sat there, and my jaw dropped when he said that. When you’re not in the banking business, we don’t know what’s going on, we’re just riding the wave of wherever the economy is. If the economy is going to crash and stay crashed for a while, we’re going to go with it, along with many other companies.

TW: How has group touring remained such a resilient form of travel all these years?

Tauck: You know, I read all the comments on our comment cards. One of the questions we ask on our comment card is, “What did you like most on your trip? And tell us what you liked least.” The thing [customers] like most is the people [they were] traveling with, traveling with like-minded people. Remember, tours attract kind of the senior end of the population, people who are getting older. They are losing friends rather than gaining friends. And when they can take a tour and meet other people who become friends for life, there’s a camaraderie that’s developed.

"The world is becoming jammed. It’s almost no fun to go places anymore. I was over in Rome in off-season in March, and I was shoulder-to-shoulder in the Colosseum."

We also get the flipside of that: people who say, “You know, I still prefer to go on my own.” And that’s the kind of person who doesn’t want to have to depart at a particular hour and get back at a particular hour. Because when you’re traveling as a group, you’ve all got to go at the same time. So it’s that structure that they don’t like. It’s very few people, but they’re out there, and you can understand why. It all comes down to who you are and what you’re like.

TW: What is Tauck’s greatest competition, either within the tour industry or in the travel industry at large?

Tauck: We used to say in the land-tour business that the cruise business was our competition. And I don’t think it’s our competition. We have customers who travel with us, [then] go out and they travel with a cruise. They’re not 100% loyal to the cruise industry; they’re not 100% loyal to us. I think that the competition that the entire travel industry — the tour operators, the cruise lines — face is crowds. The world is becoming jammed. It’s almost no fun to go places anymore. I was over in Rome in off-season in March, and I was shoulder-to-shoulder in the Colosseum. I couldn’t believe it. … I think crowds are the thing that the entire industry has got to overcome.

TW: Will there always be people who want to go on a guided tour?

Tauck: Yes.

TW: If you had a crystal ball, where would you predict that the tour business will be another 90 years from now?

Tauck: If I could answer that question, it’d be all B.S.

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