In the Hot Seat: Hugo Burge

Hugo BurgeLondon-based Cheapflights Ltd. is the parent company of comparison-shopping sites Cheapflights.co.uk and its Boston-based sibling, Cheapflights.com. The latter carries ads from major U.S. travel companies but also specializes in consolidators fares from companies like 1800FlyEurope, UK Air, Qantas Vacations, Eastern Tours Consolidated, Airfare Planet, Japan Budget Travel International and Ole Travel. Cheapflights Ltd.s Hugo Burge, vice chairman and head of international business, talked with Travel Weekly technology editor Dennis Schaal about the company and travel-search trends.

Q: What do you think of Googles flight links test, using several partners booking engines?

A: Its interesting that Google has basically emulated one of the same products that we have, a multibooking-engine product. Its not terribly sophisticated, but it helps users shop around without repeating their dates. It is certainly interesting that Google is dabbling in travel. This is dipping a toe in the water to see what happens.

There is huge awe about Google and also a huge nervousness. Google is enormously powerful and incredibly clever. Everybody is always worried, whatever space you are in, that if Google comes up with a fantastic product, then what does that mean?

I think that kind of market paranoia is healthy. The fact that it is Google just increases the pressure.

Q: What about the approach that Google is apparently taking?

A: Its not a high-tech approach. I think it speaks to some of the issues in the travel industry.  The travel industry is quite fragmented and has a long history of price differentiation, and opacity is one of the tools it uses in distribution.

Theres no silver bullet in terms of guaranteeing the best price. I think Google would have a problem coming up with the silver bullet for the travel industry in the same way that everyone else has the same issue.

Q: How does Cheapflights.com handle these issues?

A: We offer great diversity, and we offer consumers companies they wouldnt find in other places. But were not able to provide that in a live availability context because of a number of issues. If you start to provide live availability, companies actually dont like the transparency [in pricing], and the big online travel agencies push back.

There are also issues of scalability in terms of GDS and costs, and the hits it creates for your partners. The meta-search companies have been dealing with these issues in a very practical way, and it is interesting to see that landscape evolve.

Q: So how do you see Cheapflights positioned in the market?

A: Were kind of poised in travel, but in the classified ad area. We come from a research area, a sort of travel classifieds background in traditional media. Our founder is John Hatt, who was a travel editor at Harpers & Queen. Thats our heritage. If you break up travel aggregators, there are the meta-searchers, who are the live-availability searchers, and then there are the deals with publishers with more of a classified advertising background like Cheapflights, Travelzoo and SmarterTravel.com.

A third group is the destination aggregators that come from a guide book heritage. Lonely Planet is very good at that, and TripAdvisor personifies a new guide book thats interactive with consumer reviews rather than [reviews] just from journalists.

Q: What is your approach to the trademark issue when you buy ads on the search engines?

A: We perceive ourselves as friends of the travel industry. We work very closely with our partners, and they like our model. So we dont like to bid on other peoples terms. We dont use other peoples trademarks without permission.

The reason for launching in the U.S. was because we felt that a sector of the travel industry had been overlooked in the U.S. Were able to provide a platform for smaller consolidators.

Q: What are some of the key issues you face to get to the next level?

A: For a company like Cheapflights, which entered the U.S. market on a limited budget, people said it would be impossible to succeed in the U.S. market. Youre going to need at least $20 million to $30 million worth of advertising to make noise in this market, people said. So we kind of rode the wave in a quiet way as an aggregator.

I think it seemed to be the year of the aggregator in 2005. There was a lot of noise around it, and I think that helped to create awareness of Cheapflights and other meta-search companies. Weve got past the original launch, and we have critical mass.

Q: What do you make of Travelzoos entry into the U.K. market? Is that sort of a Cheapflights in reverse in that its a U.S. company entering the U.K.?

A: They do have a different shade of product, and we watch them carefully. I think theyll find it is a challenge to enter the U.K. People are already used to shopping around for deals and are used to places where you can find deals. We have a huge amount of traction and years of a lead on them in the U.K. market. I do not think that Travelzoo really offers anything incredibly different in the U.K.

To contact reporter Dennis Schaal, send e-mail to [email protected].

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