War and tourism in Ukraine

Clockwise: Photographer/writer Mark Edward Harris; Folo host Rebecca Tobin; and Ivan Liptuga, president of the National Tourism Organization Ukraine.

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Our podcast episode today is based on a cover story by photographer and writer Mark Edward Harris' visit to Odesa, Ukraine, where he reported on the sights and sounds of the city and its tourism past. In this piece, he showcases the situation in Odesa but also what the tourism industry in Ukraine is doing to assist the country in wartime: Activating connections all over the country to aid in humanitarian work.

Harris reconnected with National Tourism Organization of Ukraine president Ivan Liptuga about how Ukranian tourism companies are using their networks to assist refugees. The history of Ukraine's tourism and its target markets. How conflict has a long-lasting impact on traveler's decisions. And what travelers might appreciate about Ukraine -- from spas to skiing, culinary tourism and city breaks -- once the war has ended.

This episode was recorded Thursday, July 7, and has been edited for length and clarity.