YTB defends its business practices

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YTB International, whose practices as a multilevel marketer of travel products came under fire from Royal Caribbean Cruises earlier this month, last week mounted an aggressive defense of its business model and its recruitment of novice agents.

The company's cofounder and president, Kim Sorensen, told Travel Weekly that he and cofounder Lloyd Tomer were attempting to meet with Royal Caribbean and resolve any conflicts or misunderstandings about their business model.

Whatever the outcome, both men said they were also working to correct misconceptions about YTB.

"There is a lot of misconception about who we are and what we do," Sorensen said.

Some of the misconceptions might have been a result of the company's achieving the No. 35 spot on the 2007 Travel Weekly Power List. The ranking was based on YTB's response to the Power List survey, where the company reported about $226 million a year in "verified sales."

Sorensen said that figure reflected the total value of bookings that had resulted from referrals by its agents, not YTB's actual net revenue.

Sorensen added that the Power List figure had not been an attempt to mislead anyone, and he pointed out that the publicly traded company's financials are routinely reported in its Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

According to SEC filings, about 72% of YTB's revenue comes from licensing fees and the Web site fees that it charges the more than 60,000 referring agents who use its systems to book travel.

The remainder of the company's revenue comes from sales commissions that it retains and from fees it collects for training seminars for its "referring travel agents," or RTAs.

According to its most recent annual report, the company had a net loss of approximately $6 million on total net revenues of $50.8 million, up from $21.6 million in 2005. The company currently has a market capitalization of more than $169 million.

Of its revenue sources, the second largest was $7.3 million in commissions, Sorensen said, which is about 30% of the commissions earned by its RTAs.

Sorensen said that the $226 million sales figure it offered to Travel Weekly describes the volume of revenue it generates for cruise, vacation and other travel suppliers, rather than YTB's own net revenue.

"Our reps tend to beat us out of a lot because they tend to sometimes go around our systems, to go out and get net rates, so that all the sales [for which RTAs are responsible] don't show through our accounting system," Sorensen said. "What we reported for the Power List was gleaned from numbers that we got from suppliers: how many passengers were booked through us, or their figure for dollar sales at the end of the year. We didn't reconcile that with reports from our representatives. We just pulled in information on our sales from many reports and many sources for that."

He said Carnival Cruise Lines, for example, reported sales volume in terms of 58,739 booked passengers to date, while Royal Caribbean reported $9.5 million in cruises through YTB and another $4 million through a YTB sister company.

"At the end of the year we will try to translate that all into dollars," he said, "and that is where our [$226 million] sales number came from" for the Power List.

YTB's referring travel agents pay $500 up front, then $49.95 a month for a company-linked Web site through which they can book travel for family, friends or unrelated clients and receive commissions on those sales. Sorensen said the company was now generating about $1.5 million a month in sales commissions for its agents.

Sorensen and Tomer also stressed that they run one of the largest and most thorough agent training programs, bringing more than 20,000 of their referring agents to training seminars and other programs since the company was founded.

He said the company had also started offering free health care benefits to referring agents who produce at least $25,000 in annual commissions.       

YTB International acknowledged that it was one of three entities branded as "card mills" by Royal Caribbean, but Sorensen said no other travel supplier had contacted the company with any concerns about its practices.

'Working to mature'

Sorensen said a letter to its agents re-emphasized its own prohibitions on practices that the travel agent community dislikes.

"We are guilty as charged in some areas," Sorensen said of complaints that some RTAs were using their status as agents to receive discounted travel or other perks.

"We are working to grow up and mature," Sorensen said. "But I submit it is a very small percentage of people who have given YTB a bad name here. We have people who are way too aggressive and promote things that YTB has not promoted for years. You won't hear anything in our training or see anything in our recruiting materials about discounts."

The company's business model -- recruiting agents who pay a monthly fee to operate a YTB-linked Web site for selling travel, and in turn share in commissions generated by those they recruit to the business -- has been controversial among traditional travel agents, Sorensen said.

But the model is no different than those of multilevel marketing organizations in the cosmetic and household products industries, where marketing agents get paid to build a network of sales agents, he noted.

Tomer said he believed the company was being made a scapegoat as the travel selling environment continued to erode as a result of online competition.

"I think we are getting the flack basically from the brick-and-mortar agencies," Tomer said. "Some 75% of them have closed their doors, and the other 25% are struggling. It's hard for them to blame it on Travelocity and other online agencies like that, but they finally found someone they could pick on, and it came down to us."

He said traditional travel agencies had been closing their doors because of outmoded travel-booking systems that he said "are not going to make it through this decade. They are going to continue to have trouble competing with the Internet."

Tomer said critics failed to see YTB for what it really is.

"If they really looked, they would see that in relationship to almost any other agency, we probably provide better training than any of them," Tomer said.  

"We have gotten a lot of people coming in excited to make a million dollars," Tomer said. "You can't control what everyone says. But years from now, we'll see this as the finest travel agency with the best training [and] the best professional people booking more travel. I think we'll be booking more travel than all the brick-and-mortar agencies together."

Whatever problems exist, he said, "we'll fix them."  

To contact reporter Dan Luzadder, send e-mail to [email protected].

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