Women take the lead on gender equality at travel confabs

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A packed room at the Women's Leadership Initiative breakfast at the Phocuswright Conference in Hollywood, Fla.
A packed room at the Women's Leadership Initiative breakfast at the Phocuswright Conference in Hollywood, Fla. Photo Credit: Rebecca Tobin

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. -- The women attending the Women’s Leadership Initiative breakfast at the Phocuswright Conference here were up early in order to lean in.

The room was packed by 7:30 a.m. when analyst Claudia Unger took the stage to talk about new Phocuswright research on gender equality in the workplace. 

But from the research and subsequent discussions in the room, it seemed that gender parity -- and men’s and women’s perceptions of it -- mirrored the conference’s theme, “Are we there yet?”

The fact that the answer came up “not yet” didn’t dampen the enthusiasm at the breakfast, where more than a dozen tables of 10 were chaired by at least one “leadHER,” a female manager at a travel company selected by Phocuswright to lead group discussions and act as a potential mentor.

While women have long been a force in the travel agency community, particularly on the front lines, much of the rest of the industry is still struggling to get more females in its executive ranks. That struggle is even more pronounced in fields like travel tech, where jobs have historically been held by men.

Several speakers asserted that creating and maintaining a diverse workforce were the results of deliberate decisions.

Bringing women into leadership roles takes a “conscious and persistent effort,” said Traci Mercer, senior vice president of global lodging, ground and sea, for Sabre Travel Network and one of the event’s four panelists.

The audience was primarily women, but men in attendance included Richard Harris, the CEO of travel-data firm Intent and another panelist, who said that companies wanting to diversify their teams need to make a concerted effort to expand the hiring pool.

“If you just take the easiest path in building your culture and your company -- in our case, in New York, in tech, data science -- you’ll end up with a bunch of white dudes working at the company, running the company,” he said. “When it comes to recruiting, you have to demand a diverse slate of candidates when you’re recruiting. ... You have to put effort into it.” 

Gender diversity also received a powerful endorsement earlier in the month from Lisa Lutoff-Perlo, CEO of Celebrity Cruises, which will operate a cruise next year with an all-female bridge and officer team. 

Lutoff-Perlo said the line has been working hard to bring more women onto the ships. 

The Phocuswright conference was the first of three major travel events this season that incorporated a panel about women in the travel industry. 

At the U.S. Tour Operators Association annual conference in Orlando this month, CEO Terry Dale received a hearty round of applause when he said it was a priority to have more women represented in USTOA leadership.

USTOA’s chairwoman, Dana Santucci, also vice president of EF Education First, said one of the issues women face in the travel industry is that many of the jobs require travel, which can be difficult when starting a family.

“The challenge in this industry is not related to being a woman, but is about finding ways to balance the work and family responsibilities when the role can require significant travel,” she said. 

Meanwhile, female leaders in the luxury travel space gathered at the International Luxury Travel Market (ILTM) in Cannes, France, for a breakfast and panel discussion on achieving greater gender parity.

Tina Edmundson, global brand leader and head of the luxury portfolio for Marriott International, said one of the best ways to fix the gender gap is to hire women, “because women hire women.”

At Marriott, she said, 50% of CEO Arne Sorenson’s direct reports are women. Likewise, 50% of those reporting to her boss are female, and 50% of her direct reports are women.

Colliding perceptions

The Phocuswright research, which was fielded in September and focused on travel company employees, primarily in manager roles and higher, highlighted some interesting differences between how men and women view advancement in the workplace.

For example, more than 50% of male respondents in the survey said they agreed that leadership opportunities are equally available to all employees, but fewer than 40% of female respondents agreed.

And only 25% of female respondents agreed that there was a clear, available path for leadership cultivation in the workplace, compared with more than 40% of male respondents. 

“It’s a matter of perception,” said Unger, the lead Phocuswright analyst on the study.

The study also showed a schism between what managers think they offer and what employees feel they receive. The data revealed that 72% of managers said they give team members opportunities to manage people and projects but that only 45% of men and 41% of women said managers did this. 

Sixty percent of managers said they helped team members navigate organizational politics, but only 29% of men and 28% of women agreed. 

“There’s a difference between what you think you’re doing and what people think you’re doing,” Unger warned. 

More than 55% of women said “bias among management” was an obstacle to advancing to a leadership position, compared with fewer than 40% of men.

To the point voiced by Santucci at the USTOA conference, more women respondents than men said that lack of work-life balance was an obstacle. As Phocuswright attendees warmed to that topic, several women spoke about jokingly being asked by a manager to delay or schedule their pregnancies around work projects.

The breakfast ended just before 9 a.m., but the conversation wasn’t over. Phocuswright and news site PhocusWire are starting a women’s mentorship initiative, and the final presentation slide was of travel companies whose CEOs have signed on to the CEO Action on Diversity and Inclusion initiative, launched by the leaders of several Fortune 500 companies in 2017, under which business leaders pledge to create a culture of inclusivity and set best practices for diversity. (Northstar Travel Group, owner of Phocuswright and Travel Weekly, is a signatory on the pledge.) 

Expedia Group also is a signatory on the pledge. But later, during a main-stage interview with then-CEO Mark Okerstrom, Phocuswright analyst Maggie Rauch admitted that “the focus on women always makes me a little uncomfortable, because ultimately it kind of means white women, and there’s so much more,” and she asked Okerstrom why companies are so focused on this one area.

“We focused on gender, initially ... we’re focusing on inclusion for everyone,” Okerstrom said. “We wanted to pick an area where we felt we could make a real difference, and we have made a real difference over the course of the last five to seven years.”
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Jeri Clausing contributed reporting from the ILTM in Cannes and Johanna Jainchill from the USTOA conference in Orlando.

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